As we all know (and hoopefully no one is in denial about this), we've destroyed this wonderful planet. The polar ice caps are melting and most of the world will flood. I live in Ohio, and will be near the coast, should I live to see this occur.

When I first studied where the new shorline(s) will be I thought "Whew, at least my family will be okay." But then I realised, everywhere will be come super over-populated. Anarchy will reign. I have my doubts that the current American government will even continue to exist, at least in it's present state.

What plans does anyone have for dealing with this issue? So far the only progress I've seen is a complete lack of progress, to deny the issue. Will they still be denying it when less than half of the states in the US remain?

What do you think we should do?

I do not believe the planet is destroyed, but it has been adversely affected. Over the history of this globe, it has suffered far worse calamities than we have inflicted, including a few ELEs. However, that doesn't mean we are free to pollute. The changes needed will almost have to be revolutionary rather than evolutionary, though. Our economy is currently based on highly polluting technologies that compliment each other. For example, our vehicles run on petroleum and so there is a vast petroleum infrastructure in place to serve the vehicles in use. In order to go to a less polluting technology, we will have to change both the vehicles and the infrastructure simultaneously or neither will thrive. To ask people to give up their vehicles is neither a practical nor realistic solution, so we have to make alternative fuel marketable. To that end, I believe it is time for us as a species to move away from getting our energy supply from dead plants.

Some excellent points. While the planet itself may not be destroyed, life as we know it is hanging on a very precarious balance. That's really my concern. Do we jump ship? Create underwater civilizations? etc, etc.

First of all, we haven't destroyed our planet. Temporarily damaged it? Possibly. The planet will recover and live on long after the self righteous stupid humans have destroyed their species and possibly thousands or millions of other species in the process. Honestly, my fear is we will get off this planet and inhabit others before destroying ourselves.

There are types of people who through their own greed or through their inability to see beyond their own lifetimes, who will continue to wreak havoc and use up precious resources no matter what happens to us or the planet. Since most changes occur slowly, the majority of the people will just accept it. Case in point. Just yesterday I was thinking how everyone has just come to accept that we are now paying for the most valuable and needed resource on the planet. Water. And we will pay more for just plain water than we will for the crap with all the sugar and corn syrup in it. Can you imagine 30 years ago trying to get someone to buy bottled water? Bet you can't imagine paying for clean air, but I'm sure one day we will.

Anyway, as far as what we should do. I've decided personally to instead of wasting energy getting pissed at people who don't care or who want to remain ignorant, I will do what I can to impact the environment as little as possible. From what I buy to what I do with it afterwards, I will keep the environment in mind. I will contribute to enviromental groups who have more power than myself and which I believe are doing good things toward our planet. I will also try to educate people who want to know. Sure, I still waste, and I still screw up from time to time, but I will continue to try and be more environmentally friendly.

I'm developing my gun skills, fencing skills, martial arts skills, woodsman skills, arctic survival skills and last but not least, I plan on gaining 500lbs so I've got some reserves.

It also doubles as my 'zombies take over the world' plan.

I believe we should get off the planet eventually. Since we have no proof, only conjecture and a little bit of evidence, that life exists elsewhere, for all we know we represent the only chance for life to continue to exist after the sun goes red giant and eats Earth. Therefore, we are, ironically, both nature's worst living enemy and her only hope as far as we know.

Some of our industries can be moved off planet eventually and matched with a planet so that the by-products of production are compatible with the local environment. For example, much is said about Venus looking like what could eventually happen to Earth if we do not fix things. Solution: move the heavy polluters to Venus since the waste products from these industries basically would be like an alien race moving in and making factories here where the stacks emit pure air and the liquid waste is pure water. In the infinite variety of space, there may be a place where industry could by symbiotic with the planet.

Ow, ow, the sun...it hurts! We don't really know sh1t about the cycles of our planet.

The Earth is warming, that's an undeniable fact. But is it really Man's fault? It's a bit arrogant of our human race to think so. We really don't know jack about our planet, and how severe our impact is on it. Really, we're still recovering from ice age (the last one ended less than 15 000 years ago!), so global temperature increase should be expected.

What are we going to do about it? Adapt or die. But I doubt we'll see much of this within our lifetimes.

I'm expecting to see a huge increase in wind, solar and nuclear power ("green" energy, if you will) in the next few decades, and this market will likely be dominated by the same companies that control our energy (oil) now. They're not stupid, they know fossil fuels will eventually run out. That should help decrease our global warming a bit.

On the larger time scale, I'm putting my money on the chance that we're going to see another ice age again in the nearish future (next hundred thousand years or so). So what are we petty humans really worring about anyways, eh?

Anyone who can use "Zombies" in a global warming thread automatically gets my vote.

I've been secretly storing fat for when the floods come and food is scarce. I say I could get a mobile home, and weld some 50 gallon drums to the underside of it, so when the water levels rise, that bad boy just floats right on up!

Poop, I think you should look into the timescales involved here. It's going to be quite some time before we need to head for the hills.

I will agree that we have been irresponsible in the way we have conducted ourselves with regard to our only planet, but as others have said, the current warming trend does not have humanity as the sole cause.

I live in Eastern US. My tree's starting blooming yesterday, and it was about 78. In January. Needless to say, our present situation sucks.

I think that there might be an ice age starting in about 20 thousand years. Right now some orbital factors aren't quiet right for an ice age, but they will be in about 20,000 years.

But first, we will heat up the climate a bit; its not that the heat is so much, after all, the earth has been hotter before, but the heating is occuring too fast, unnaturally fast. Especially if we melt out some of that frozen methane. Many species won't be able to adapt in time, just like they couldn't adapt to humans doing their regular things. Only it'll be worse.

I pretty much agree with the standard opinion that we are going to have to switch to nuclear, solar, wind, and geothermal power. Although there are ideas about increasing the carbon intake of oceans by fertilizing them with iron, or to reflect more sunlight into space by putting aerosols in the atmosphere, I bet these sorts of schemes would have some unintended side-effects. Probably better to just stick with cleaner energy.

The climate change issue is purely political fueled by bad science and a liberal media

The only thing "Global" about "Warming" is your lack of independent thinking enriched by history, tradition and God. This horrible lack of basic understanding of past painful experiences in human treatment leads you to conclusions benefiting the few's own agendas!

We gotta save Earth!! Thats where I keep all my stuff!

to paraphrase George Carlin.

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Yea, suddenly it is no wonder the site is dead and there are maybe 4 updates a day. I don't care if ideas are stupid, you all (yea, I'm looking around at all of you) should stop being asses.

Hello my "friendly" hopeful,
Thanks to your eloquent welcome, I had a had short, but good laugh.

Don't be afraid, say what's on you mind don't abbreviate. And you know you are right, I can see the polar bears running for cover on the remaining ice planks, and Al Gore waiting for them with out stretched hands in welcome! True, the deviations in ocean's temperature changes are a part of a natural cycle, but to claim that human activity accellerated this is insane just like you my friend. I would like to know what human activity can compete with solar influence on earth's temperatures. Maybe you can come up with one? If not I have few suggestions: politically induced stupidity, liberal utopian agendas, bunch of farting cows, sounds of destruction of a coal industry by our favorite president etc. pick one. Oh, by the way I surely was compilin and quoting.

^My apologies, Peter; I over reacted. I swear I'm not usually like that... I'm an a*****e sure, but not that much of one. It was part booze and part dinosaur avatar (they're a bad influence on me). So again, I'm sorry.

However, I think you are misunderstanding what I meant by human activity accellerating the process, I did not mean to imply that anything would or could compete with solar influence. We're creating a magnifying glass for the sun.

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You know, Plime should have become as large as digg,reddit, fark, and the rest, but this is an example of what is holding Plime back.

Far too many members even long time members get ganged up on for having the wrong opinion.

Solar influence? sorry buddy, but that one has been proven wrong many times.

Recent changes in solar outputs and the global mea...

Hey look, an actual peer-reviewed science journal :). I could easily find you another 10 articles that come to the same conclusion.

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